Help with Applying for Citizenship via Modelo 1C LN

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• carlasimone

  January 2 editado January 2

  @rita_123

  Your father's Portuguese birth record need not be apostilled. It is a Portuguese document. Send them the printed CivilOnline copy.

  Did your father register your birth when you were less than 1 year old?

  
  

  Is your long-form birth certificate a scanned copy from the book? That is the format they have been requiring since 2018. It must be apostilled.

  Also, if your birth certificate is not in English, French or Spanish, it must be translated by a public translator, preferably into Portuguese, and the translation must be apostilled (if not done by a public Portuguese translator in Portugal).

  
  

  Your passport copy must be notarised and apostilled.

  Your signature on the 1C form must be notarised (but not necessarily apostilled, since it is a Portuguese document) and you must sign it in the presence of the notary public (= ‘signed by authenticity’; if the authentication seal is in a language other than French, Spanish or English, I'd suggest you apostille the form, or try to do it at the Portuguese embassy/consulate).

  
  

  Here is the forum’s guide. You can translate it on the Google Chrome browser: https://forum.cidadaniaportuguesa.com/discussion/24047/documentos-para-atribuicao-de-nacionalidade-para-filhos-maiores-formulario-1c/

  
  

  However, as far as I know, you can only mail it to Lisbon, and not to Porto.
• rita_123

  January 3

  @carlasimone

  Yes, my father registered my birth when I was less than 1 year old.

  Yes, it is the long-form birth certificate (scanned copy from the register book). Since it is in French, I will have it apostilled.

  For the passport copy and the Form 1C signature, I will keep checking for appointments at the Portuguese embassy/consulate so I can certify the passport copy and sign the form there, if possible (since UAE is not part of the Hague Apostille so it's a bit harder to certify documents here)

  Thank you very much for your help.
• carlasimone

  January 3 editado January 3

  @rita_123

  I suppose that is the most viable way. If you were to legalise the documents in the old fashion, you would still need to go to the Portuguese embassy/consulate.

  Now, if you read carefully through the instructions of the 1C form, it says that you can also have your signature (and your passport copy) be notarised by a Portuguese lawyer.

  No-one here can recommend you any professionals, as that is against the forum’s terms and conditions.

  Do bear in mind, however, that they must identify themself by writing their Portuguese lawyer ID number and their name, lest the notarisation be invalid.

  They (the lawyer) need not submit your application; though they could also do that, digitally, then they would be the one to keep track of your application.

  
  

  The most far-fetched (and expensive) option would be to try to have your documents authenticated and apostilled in a neighbouring country. Here is the list of the signatary states of the Hague convention: https://www.gsccca.org/notary-and-apostilles/apostilles/hague-apostille-country-list

  If you’re thinking of maybe spending the holidays in Oman…
• rita_123

  January 3

  @carlasimone

  Given that authenticating the documents here would still require going through the Portuguese embassy/consulate, I’ll probably look into either using a Portuguese lawyer, as you mentioned, or doing the process in a neighbouring country such as Oman, which may be quicker.

  Thanks again for your help.
• rita_123

  January 7

  @carlasimone

  I was finally able to secure two appointments at the Portuguese embassy in Abu Dhabi: one for signature recognition and the other for document certification. However, I don't think the Portuguese embassy will be able to certify my passport, since it wasn’t issued in the UAE. I believe I will need to go to my home country's consulate to have the passport copy legalized first, then take it to MOFA for certification, and finally bring it to the Portuguese embassy for certification.

  Can you confirm if this is the correct process? Also, does this procedure replace the notarization step, or do I still need to notarize the passport copy before proceeding with these steps?

  Thanks in advance for your help!
• rita_123

  January 7

  @carlasimone

  I’ve read online that the ID document needs to contain information about my parents. Is that true? The only document I have that includes their names is my birth certificate. Both my passport and current Emirates ID (EID) do not include any parental information.

  I was thinking of certifying my EID directly at the Portuguese Embassy next week, as it is issued by the UAE and they will definitely certify it for me without needing to go to the MOFA... My only question now is whether it is mandatory for the ID document to include my parents' details for the nationality application.

  Thanks in advance for your help!
• eduardo_augusto

  January 7

  @rita_123

  
  

  However, I don't think the Portuguese embassy will be able to certify my passport, since it wasn’t issued in the UAE.

  
  

  If they do not do it, it's simply because they do not want to, not because they can't.

  Explanation: I had no problem at all getting a certified copy of my Brazilian passport at the Portuguese Consulate in Stuttgart, in Germany.

  
  

  As for the question regarding your parents'names: although there is nothing published, yes, the Conservatória typically demands that your ID contains your parents' names. But if you have no ID document that includes it, and your country does not issue one, there's nothing you can do.

  I think if you ever receive a demand on this topic, then you respond saying such document does not exist.
• MiraiAx

  January 7

  @rita_123 I submitted my application with my physical Passport, even though my parents' names aren't in it. The attendant made a copy of it herself and said it was fine as long as my full name matches the one on my birth certificate. The name of your Portuguese father has to match the one appearing on your foreign birth certificate.

  The name of your mother must match the marriage certificate ( if they are married ). They require a marriage certificate from your Portuguese parent to ensure the names match, and if there was a name change, to be able to identify it through official documents to ensure no confusion and delays happen. They will also see that your mother is the same in both documents and will ease their assessment of legitimacy.

  In my case, all my papers and documents were in Portuguese, so no translation was needed. What I needed was to certify the official replication of my birth certificate. The Registry Office already certifies it's the same and equivalent to the original one, but make sure to ask them about it. Then I went to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to put an official stamp on the birth certificate so it would allow me to use it outside the country. After that, I went to the Portuguese consulate, and they put their own Portuguese stamps on it to certify that everything was legit and usable in Portuguese institutions.

  The key aspect for 1C applications is to be able to match and ID the Portuguese national throughout your official documents and confirm your birthright.
• carlasimone

  January 7

  @rita_123

  The certified copy is only a document that states, ‘This copy is a faithful reproduction of the original document presented to me’, issued by a special authority. It doesn’t go beyond certifying that, visually, they look the same. It does not even say what type of document it is. So you shouldn’t have any issues certifying any country’s passport at the consulate, irrespective of issuer.

  This is a notary service; that’s why you don’t need to ‘notarise’ it any further. And, since it is done by a Portuguese authority (that’s the key part), it does not need be apostilled.

  You could also get a certified and legalised copy of your EID at the Portuguese consulate/embassy.

  
  

  Now, if you were to get a certified copy of your passport at your country’s consulate/embassy and your country is a signatary of the Hague Convention, you would not be able to legalise the certified copy at the Portuguese consulate/embassy. You would need to have it apostilled in the issuing country.

  
  

  The filiation part in IDs and passports is mostly a requirement for Brazilians (because Brazil does have it on both). Many countries do not even have that on passports or IDs. Your name must be an exact match to your birth certificate, however. If it has changed because of marriage, you’ll need to provide proof when applying (legalised long-form marriage certificate).
• rita_123

  January 9

  @eduardo_augusto @MiraiAx @carlasimone

  Thanks a lot, everyone 🙂 I emailed the embassy and they confirmed that they can certify a passport copy, so you were all right.

  One last question: why is it said that I shouldn’t send my application to Porto, even though it’s often considered faster? Are applications sent by post only received in Lisbon?

  I ask because the official website states that applications can be sent by mail to any nationality counter:

  https://registo.justica.gov.pt/Cidadaos/Nacionalidade/Contactos
• MiraiAx

  January 9

  @rita_123 From what I read a few days ago in another forum, it doesn't matter where the mail is sent; if the payment is made online, the application will automatically go to Lisbon. If you send it to Porto, you have to pay physically in Porto to keep the application there.

  But I can't say for sure, I made everything in Lisbon.
• carlasimone

  January 9 editado January 9

  @rita_123

  Sorry. I think I got it mixed up.

  @CarlosASP Tinha visto um comentário seu sobre as competências de cada conservatória. Consegue se lembrar se processos de filhos dependiam do local de nascimento do requerente para transitar no ACP? Não lembro agora a resolução.

  In any case, you can send it to Porto; they will digitise your documents; and the system will allocate your application randomly.

  @MiraiAx

  Not really. It depends on the specific article. Hers is sons and daughters of Portuguese nationals. If I remember correctly (@CarlosASP can maybe help me with that), only grandsons and granddaughters of Portuguese nationals’ applications could also be processed in Porto besides Lisbon if they and their parent had been born in the EU, the UK or Brazil.

  You do not need to pay anything in Porto to keep the application there, because the payment does not determine where your application will end. The system assigns a conservatória randomly since July/2025 regardless of where you send it to.
• Destefano

  January 9

  @carlasimone nao existe limitação de competência em relação a filhos.
• CarlosASP

  January 9

  @carlasimone

  Mudou há um tempo. Antes havia para a ACP - mas era para o progenitor do requerente. A ACP só processava pedidos se o progenitor com nacionalidade PT tivesse nascido em PT, Uniao Europeia, UK ou BR.

  Tinha um despacho interno do IRN de 2022 que fazia essa limitação:

  IV) Instrução e decisão dos pedidos de atribuição da nacionalidade portuguesa, nos termos da alínea c) do n.º 1 do artigo 1.º da Lei da Nacionalidade, relativamente a filhos de mãe portuguesa ou de pai português, desde que o nascimento deste progenitor tenha ocorrido em território português, em país da Comunidade Europeia, no Reino Unido da Grã-Bretanha e Irlanda do Norte ou na República Federativa do Brasil;

  Volta e meia aparecia alguém com progenitor PT nascido na Venezuela, EUA, Argentina etc e a ACP não aceitava e encaminhava para CRCentrais Lisboa.

  Pelo que entendo, isso acabou. Tem uma postagem de alguém que recebeu a confirmação da ACP sobre isso, mas não lembro onde está.

  Só faço a ressalva para ex-colônias PT - não conheço os detalhes para esses processos e não sei se tem especificidades de onde podem tramitar.